FOUR SPIRIT TEACHERS

Marcus · Manyomin · Mayet Ptah · Mentor

TRANCE TALKS

Through the Mediumship of SHEILA JONES

WITH QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Recorded by John Mainwood
Transcribed and Edited by John Byrne

©Copyright 1994 by Sheila Jones

To more easily understand the format and editing of these Trance Talks
it is recommended that you firstly read the Introduction and Foreword

Introduction    Foreword

There now follow Twenty-six Chapters

Chapter One

The Value of Silence - Etheric Bodies - Perpetual Guides - The Incarnating Spirit Distortion in Spirit Messages - Ideal Conditions for Healing - Visits to Cemeteries

Chapter Two

Individual and Universal Power - Mayet Ptah - Predestination and Freewill - Your Decision to Return - Interplanetary Communication - Benefits from Other Planets Twin Souls - The Power of Prayer

Chapter Three

Truth and Spiritualism - Towards Understanding - Halls of Learning - Departure of the Spirit - Does Teaching Change? - Scarcity of Mediums - Spiritual Groups - Doubtful Methuselahs - More on Twin Souls

Chapter Four

The Search for Truth - Violence - A Spirit Visitor - Hell - More on the Power of Prayer - Reincarnation - Brain, Memory and Mind - Earth's Survival - Son of Marcus

Chapter Five

Understanding - Mistaken Identity - Two Sets of Guides - Good or Bad Luck - Never Predestination - Our Guides - Astrology - Vegetarianism

Chapter Six

Unity of Mankind - Jesus' Date of Death - How Do You See Us? - Prayer for Those in Darkness  - Sai Baba - Fear and Anger - Christmas - Thoughts and Prayers - The Choice is Yours - The Human Race

Chapter Seven

Truth, Faith and Knowledge - Marriage - Know Thyself - Ambiguity - Corn Circles - Personal Spirituality - Guides' Origins - Geographical Areas - Blocking Communication Re-encounters - Double Check - Muscular Atrophy

Chapter Eight

Tolerance, Harmony and Forgiveness - The Next Messenger - How Many Incarnations? - Guide/Medium Compatibility - The Lamb of God - Recall - Further Elaboration on Corn Circles - Earthly Help to Spirit - Clarification of Corn Circles - The Indestructible Spirit

Chapter Nine

Light and Darkness - Saddam Hussein - Suffering in Old Age - Astral Travel - Belief and Knowledge - The Christ Spirit - The Dove - Possession - Life on Other Planets - Forgiveness - Crazyhorse - Manyomin - Red Indian Guides - Human Imperfections

Chapter Ten

Prevention of War - Friendship - Life after Life - Turn the Other Cheek - Passing Over - Spiritual Healers - The Sun as a Symbol of Light

Chapter Eleven

Continuity of Life - Organized Religion - Unleavened Bread - Future Difficulties - Karma  AIDS - Motor Neurone Disease - In What Form Do You See Us? - Choices - Time - Absent - Healing - Sudden Death

Chapter Twelve

Jesus the Man - True Christianity - Belial - Lucifer - A New Messiah - Animal Evolution    Tolerance Among Nations

Chapter Thirteen

Living Your Life - Spiritual Protection - Aquarian Age - More on Predestination - Inner Expectations - Passing to Spirit - Seeking Truth

Chapter Fourteen

Our Reason for Being - Peace on Earth - Suicide - Our Prayers - Does the Wording Matter? - The Bible - The Win of God and Freewill - Spiritualism as Religion - Use Technology for Good

Chapter Fifteen

One God for All - Our Thoughts – Suffering p - Thoughts of Hatred - Drug Addiction - Spiritual Healing for Addiction - Decision Making - Overshadowing - Do You Wish to Return?  - Crime and Punishment

Chapter Sixteen

Christmas and Christianity - The Pure in Heart - The Family of Jesus - The Bible, Fact or Fiction

Chapter Seventeen

Understanding and Spiritual Rights - Communication - Working in Spirit - Painting and Music - Islam - Religion and God - The Soul at Conception - Sexuality - Evolution and Development

Chapter Eighteen

Peace - Disunity in Spiritualism - Greed - Explaining to the Orthodox - Body and Blood - The Arrest of Jesus - New Souls - Earthbound Spirits - Only Begotten Son of God - Love

Chapter Nineteen

Earth Turmoil - Attempts at Peace - Eternal Life - Help from the Spirit World    Mediumship - Disharmony - Negative Emotions - Eugenics - Fate and Opportunity Vivisection

Chapter Twenty

Faith - A Call for Help - Atlantis - Don't be Afraid

Chapter Twenty-one

Fear and Doubt - Epilepsy and Schizophrenia - Prolonging Life Artificially - Heaven and Earth - Animal Euthanasia - Mental Illness - Quality of Mediumship - Transfiguration -Agnostic Death - Light in Darkness

Chapter Twenty-two

Unity of Earth and Spirit Life - Positive Thoughts - Corn Circles, Are They Fakes? - Electronic Devices for Communication - Why Reincarnation? - Earth's First Inhabitants - Creatures of Darkness - The Balance of Nature - Anxiety and Panic

Chapter Twenty-three

Luck - Disparity - Equality - Nationalism and Racialism - Wealth and Fame - Giving to Others - Advice and Guidance - Justification of Violence - Mental Problems - Homosexuality - The Next Sphere

Chapter Twenty-four

Individuality - Gullibility - Responsibility - Immortality - The United Nations - Protection from Evil - Contacting Your Guide - The Power of Thought - Visualization More on Homosexuality - A Blank Mind - Creating Reality - Exorcism - Devas or Nature Spirits

Chapter Twenty-five

Selflessness - Union of All with God - Child Murder - Sensitivity - Jesus Christ and the Bible - The Next Coming - Transplanting Organs - Blood Transfusions - Psychosomatic Illness - Rate of Spiritual Development

Chapter Twenty-six

Mans' Evolution - Groups - Other Civilizations - Identifying a Spirit - Asthma - Animals and Plants - An Unrequited Request - More on Atlantis - Doctors and Regression  More on Animals – Pain - The Aquatic World - Physical Energy – Machinery - Language

INTRODUCTION

Four Spirit TeachersForword | Chapters

This book has been compiled from the recorded trance lectures given at the Spiritualist Association of Great Britain by the four main spirit teacher-guides of Sheila Jones, who is the trance medium for: Manyomin, Marcus, Mayet Ptah and Mentor - see further details in the foreword.

For a number of years Sheila has been coming to the SAGB once a month - generally the last Thursday - going into trance and awaiting one of her guides to come through. She is never previously aware of which guide will speak on any particular evening. Neither is she aware - while in deep trance - of the contents of the initial talk and the subsequent questions and answers session.

The initial talk usually takes about ten minutes and is followed by questions from the audience and replies from the teacher-guide. To end each evening there is an epilogue in the form of a prayer to the God Spirit. The questions can be on any subject but the Chairman of the meeting - usually Miss Ethel Watts - suggests that they be of a general rather than a personal nature. This does not always deter us, myself included, from slipping-in something that is of a questionable 'general nature.’ The guide knowing that we are only human, generally turns a blind eye but not a deaf ear.

John Mainwood, who is a member of Sheila Jones's home circle, not only records the proceedings but also drives Sheila from and to her home near Brighton for these monthly sessions. Like me, Sheila is not happy about driving at night; for though we may well all want to see the light, it is perhaps not in the form of blinding headlamps.

The booming voice of each guide comes through loud and well enunciated and in this respect I have had little difficulty in transcribing the cassettes onto the computer. I did however, experience problems with some of the questions from the audience. Some had soft low voices or others at the back of the lecture hall could not be heard properly on the recording. Fortunately the nature of the question can almost always be evinced from the answer. Where it is not possible to give the verbatim question, I have enclosed it in square brackets [thus] to show it as an editorial interpretation. Hopefully this will not detract too much from the general understanding. In the initial talks and the answers, the square brackets have also been used in a few instances where a word either appeared be missing or was uncertain. They are also used for editorial comment.

The recorded sessions reproduced in this volume cover a period from 1989 to 1993 and naturally over a period of five years some of the initial talks and the questions and answers will be repeated almost identically or in a somewhat different form. Therefore to preserve the authenticity and to avoid interfering too much with the original, I have included most of the repetitions as these are often answered by a different teacher-guide, who generally deals with another aspect of the subject. In many instances also the teacher-guide will give a relatively short answer to the question and then digress and speak on a related subject.

These cassettes, recorded on a home cassette recorder, were not originally made with the aim of eventual publication. The sequence - with the exception of the last two

chapters - is chronological but with the obvious omission of several months. From the available tapes, over the five year period, I have included all those that were sufficiently audible and not too defective. Certain dates/cassettes had to be omitted simply because they did not record well and were subsequently inaudible or badly defective. Omission was by force majeure and not by editorial choice.

However, at the end of this volume I have included parts of two 1992 tapes discovered too late for inclusion in chronological order, as well as audible segments of some defective tapes that we believed would be of general interest. I hope the omissions, as well as the included repetitions, may be the spirit worlds way of choosing, or perhaps more correctly guiding our choice, but naturally I cannot presume to guarantee this.

In the meantime, Sheila Jones in trance, Ethel Watts in the chair and John Mainwood recording, continue to co-operate with one of the four spirit teachers each month in bringing us these very interesting discussions on the philosophy of Spiritualism.

John Byrne

London W5

January 1994

FOREWORD

Four Spirit Teachers | Introduction | Chapters

I was lucky to be born into Spiritualism. My father was F. J. Jones the healer whose best known control was perhaps the Zulu Medicine man. The Red Indian Quiverfoot dealt mainly with nervous and mental cases and there was also Umbrale who taught and gave wonderful addresses.

Father healed at the SAGB - then known as the Marylebone Spiritualist Association in Russell Square - as well as at home and also over much of the country, for those who could not get to him. I am proud to be his daughter and to have the benefit of his influence.

My wish was to follow him as a healer, but Spirit decreed otherwise, saying my work lay in teaching, as there is a great need in this time for understanding the philosophy of spirit. I developed my deep trance sitting at home with my mother, brother and 'Sunshine', who had been my father's helper.

I was pushed into platform work by Jim Haswell - a member of the home circle formed after my development - first at Sutton Young Spiritualists, then Balham Discussion Group, both sadly are no more. Later I was asked by Tom Johansen if I would serve at the SAGB, that was about twenty-five years ago.

The four spirit teachers in this book are:

Marcus

A Roman Centurion who after seeing the heroism of the early Christians in the face of persecution became one himself and died in the arena for his faith. He is a wonderful orator and has a great, if dry, sense of humour. He was the first of the four to speak publicly.

Manyomin

A Sioux Indian known as Crazyhorse. He was a holy man and teacher in his nation; the Teton Oglala Sioux and was forced to become a war leader to defend the land of his people against white American soldiers, whose cruelty is well known. He and I have been together in many lives and are very close.

Mayet Ptah

An Egyptian priest and teacher at the time of Sesostris I. A very highly evolved being who has great wisdom but keeps his understanding of human problems and frailty. Several in the home circle I ran when in London knew him in their Egyptian incarnation.

Mentor

A Jew who lived at the time of Jesus. Although reared in the orthodox religion, became connected with Christianity after the crucifixion and travelled abroad to spread the message. We do not know his real name - he considers this unimportant - but has said we may call him Mentor or Counsellor for the purposes of identity.

Others

In my private circle we have many other friends who come just for a chat. Fu, a Tibetan lama is the doorkeeper; a very quiet, gentle and compassionate soul with immense wisdom. He speaks too quietly for the public platform, but is greatly loved by all who know him.

Gladys, a cockney* whose colourful language keeps her out of public life. A warm and generous soul, who tends to mask this with a pretence of being tough, but cannot hide the love she gives out. Her task is to help souls passing to spirit and who are ignorant of survival and afraid to 'die'. There are others who are too numerous to mention but are always welcome. [*A resident of the East-end of London].

Very often we have found that there have been connections in previous lives between various members of the circles both with each other and with some of the spirit friends who come to visit. This makes regression even more interesting, checking various relationships and events of the past and explains the immediate rapport - or antipathy - one sometimes feels when first meeting another.

I hope this book will be of help and interest to all who read it and I will be very happy if it gives some comfort, knowledge, love and optimism to those who are troubled and searching for peace, truth and understanding.

In conclusion I should like to thank Ethel Watts for chairing the monthly meetings, and John Mainwood for providing me with transport to and from the SAGB each month and for making the recordings of the trance talks; without his help and kindness this book would not have been possible. I should also like to thank John Byrne for transcribing and editing the tapes and for the long hours and hard work he put-in in preparing the script.

Sheila Jones

East Mead February 1994

Four Spirit Teachers | Introduction | Forword | Chapters