The Suffolk connection

Framlington Castle, Suffolk

Plaque in the Abbey at Bury St Edmunds

The ruins of Thetford Priory
(© Bob Jones, Wikipedia Commons)

My wife, Margaret, and I retired to Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk in 2006. We had been researching our family tree for several years and had already established that we were distantly related through the daughters of Hugh Kevelioc, Earl of Chester, who is our respective 24 x great-grandfather. However, as we have expanded the tree, we have discovered that we are also related in many other different ways as well - to the extent that Personal Ancestral File now only displays the first 100 relationships !

In the Abbey gardens in Bury there is a plaque commemorating the meeting of the Barons held there on 20th November 1214 to force King John to comply with the terms of the Magna Carta. As far as we were aware, we had no connections to the area, so we were surprised to find that this meeting was attended by no less than 13 members of our family. The list of attendees and our relationships to them is shown below :

AttendeeRelation to Charles CraneRelation to Margaret Crane
Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford24 x great grandfather25 x great grandfather
Gilbert de Clare (later Earl of Gloucester and Hertford)23 x great grandfather24 x great grandfather
Saher de Quincy, Earl of Winchester24 x great grandfather25 x great grandfather
Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford24 x great grandfather22 x great grandfather
Roger le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk25 x great grandfather24 x great grandfather
Hugh Bigod, later Earl of Norfolk24 x great grandfather23 x great grandfather
Robert Fitz WalterNot known, if anyNot known, if any
William de MowbrayNot known, if anyNot known, if any
Geoffrey de Say23 x Great Grandfather (unproven)Not known, if any
William de HuntingfieldNot known, if anyNot known, if any
Robert de Ros24 x great granduncle (unproven)27 x great granduncle (unproven)
John de Lacy, Constable of Chester (later Earl of Lincoln)23 x great grandfather24 x great grandfather
William d’Aubini, of Belvoir, Earl of Arundel23 x great grandfather25 x great grandfather
William MaletNot known, if any25 x great granduncle (unproven)
John FitzRobertNot known, if anyNot known, if any
William de LanvalayNot known, if anyNot known, if any
William de Forz, titular Earl of AumaleNot known, if anyNot known, if any
Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex24 x great granduncle21 x great granduncle
William Marshal the Younger (later Earl of Pembroke)23 x great granduncle21 x great granduncle
Roger de MontbegonNot known, if anyNot known, if any
Richard de MuntfichetNot known, if anyNot known, if any
Richard de PercyNot known, if anyNot known, if any
Eustace de VescyNot known, if anyNot known, if any
William de Hardell, Mayor of LondonNot known, if anyNot known, if any

The Bigod family fought at the Battle of Hastings, and afterwards was rewarded with substantial estates in East Anglia. The Domesday Book lists Roger Bigod as holding 6 lordships in Essex, 117 in Suffolk and 187 in Norfolk. Their base was in Thetford, Norfolk where they founded a priory later donated to the great monastery at Cluny. In 1101 Henry I granted licence to build a castle at Framlingham, which became the family seat of power until their downfall in 1307.

What is seen at Framlingham today is what was rebuilt by my 25 x great grandfather, Roger Bigod, in 1190 after Henry III ordered it to be destroyed in 1177. It was one of the first castles not to have a great tower and instead has thirteen towers set around the walls. King John stayed there in 1213 and three years later beseiged and captured it. It later became the chief seat of the Mowbray family and then the Howards, Dukes of Norfolk.

The Bigods also had a castle at Bungay and, although not theirs, Orford Castle was built by King Henry to keep an eye on us!

The family became barons of the first rank in 1107 and by 1166 were reputed to be the fifth richest family in England. They nearly lost it all when Hugh Bigod rose up against Henry II in 1174, but by the time Roger III inheritted as a minor in 1225, the family were again extremely well placed to play a major role in both national and local politics in East Anglia. When we first came to Bury St Edmunds, we got a little tired of being told "You're not from round here, then!" Well maybe we're not, but it seems that our family used to own most of it....


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