Hello
again Chris, I have put together the following
information about the birth of LINSAC and the
writing of the ZX80 book, some of it may be of
interest to you just for the historical value.
Regards Terry
So...... long long
ago and far far away... no another story starts
like that.
The tale starts
with four friends, Bob and Judith, Terry and
Kathryn..... Bob Maunder worked for Hartlepool
College of Further Education at the time, he
headed up the Computer Unit within the Business
Department, a small group of people at that point
who worked with Z80 based computer systems (North
Star Horizon's if my memory serves me correctly,
costing around £1000 each) teaching computer
languages to 16 to 80 year old students, primarily
BASIC.
At the time I
worked as a Development Engineer (research) for
GEC Telecommunications designing microprocessor
based test equipment - cutting edge stuff then -
writing real-time operating systems and control
systems with 8080, 8085 and Z80 chips! Bob and I
and our wives knew each other from the church that
we all went to in Middlesbrough, Bob and Judith
lived in Linthorpe, a part of Middlesbrough, we
lived in Ayresome, another part. As friends we
often saw each other, Bob and Judith had two young
children at the time and my wife Kathryn was
expecting our son (as he turned out to be).
One evening we went
around to see them as Bob had just been down to
London to a personal computer fair at which the
ZX80 was launched, we knew that he had been going
to go and that he had wanted to purchase a ZX80
kit, from what I remember it cost £99.99. I had
said that I would build the kit, little did I know
what it would lead to. So on arrival there was Bob
with the kit in hand, still in the box and
interestingly enough with the serial number
ZX80/000000 (lots of zeros.....) presumably the
first ever kit! I set to work on it at a table,
soldering iron, pliers, side-cutters etc and was
given food and drink by the others as we all
talked about various things. After an hour or so
we had a complete machine and it was time to power
it up. So it was plugged in to a portable TV,
power was applied and WOW a display appeared on
the screen - well after a little re-tuning of the
TV it did. I recall that Bob and I played at
programming it for a little while and then we ate
and drank together. Somewhere in the evening we
jokingly said we should write a book on how to
build the kits and program the machine (as so few
outside of education or design had seen personal
computers never mind programmed one!). Well we
left for the evening and met up a couple of days
later by which point the idea had turned into a
real decision to write a book and sell software.
We decided to set
up a company and various names were thought about
but we eventually decided in LINCSAC - Linthorpe
Software And Circuits as we though that we might
end up building add-ons for the machine. The next
six weeks were a blur, we both had day and evening
time jobs, children, families and the four of us
spent long hours into the night writing the
content of the ZX80 Companion, typing it, (I
remember that Bob had to go out and buy an
electric typewriter), getting a friend (Richard
Nicholson) to pose for the cover shot and then
arranging to get the text photocopied and bound at
a local printers. At the end of the six weeks we
had a book and Bob had started writing bits of
software to sell alongside the book. We took out
an advert in, I believe, Personal Computer World
(it may not have been) advertising the book and as
they say, the rest is history. The book took off,
sold all of our copies, we had to re-print. Bob
took out more adverts in magazines, we wrote
several pieces of software - games, utilities and
educational and they too sold.
That probably takes
us to the end of that year, in the September our
son was born - he didn't sleep much. I changed
jobs to work as a lecturer in computing and
microelectronics alongside Bob and by the end of
the year the ZX81 was launched and it started all
over again. Somewhere around the September time
Bob arranged for the College to purchase ZX80's
and I remember Bob and I teaching evening classes
to enthusiastic groups of young and old who wanted
to understand the basics of the use of personal
computers before they went out and purchased one.
Along the way we
met others involved in those early days of
personal computing, Ian Logan - a GP with an
interest in computers came along with a Monitor
listing for the ZX80 - we published that also and
I'm fairly sure that we had contact with Tim
Hartnell and several people at Sinclair Research.
We had the book "stolen" from us in
other countries as local companies copied it and
sold it without royalties - it's very difficult
stopping that happening without lawyers in those
other countries. Bob went on after this to write
books on a variety of personal computers as they
were launched, the" Oric" was one, there
were others. Twenty-four years later Bob now works
for FDLearning - who write software for education
and lives in Sheffield. I still work for
Hartlepool College but in a very different role
and live in the North East. Interestingly my son,
who didn't sleep (and still doesn't) and who spent
many hours propped up on my lap at the age of 3
months looking at a computer screen (it was the
only way to keep him quiet) had his first computer
aged 5, I built it out of spare ZX80 bits and he
is now graduating from a degree in IT and writing
his own software. So the circle continues. I
wonder if they are going to launch another
personal computer..........perhaps we could write
a book.....
Chris
writes: I
have thought of writing an interesting book on my
experiences as a home-call out computer engineer,
I thought something like "Confessions of a
Computer Engineer"!!! (to combine real
everyday problem fixes and some strange stories of
the people I've met)!
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| Chris...
Thanks for the
note. A few hundred words? Well, actually, I'm a
bit fuzzy on the details, but several things were
happening more or less at once when the personal
computer revolution was just getting started...
My first real
encounter with computers that were small,
powerful, personal, and actually fun to program
was with the Bally Arcade. This was an incredibly
powerful Z80 based system that never got the
product support it deserved. I was involved with
the design of much of the early software for
Bally, including Bally Basic. I created the music
notation system and wrote the Bally Basic book --
which was an earlier version of the Computer
Learning Lab I created for Clive Sinclair.
The Sinclair
version of the Learning Lab was done in
collaboration with Tom DeFanti. Tom taught
programming and was my roommate at the time. We
did this project together, over a weekend or two
at his cabin in Wisconsin. (I now live in a house
more or less next door to Tom, about a half mile
away, along the same stream that runs through both
our properties.)
The Color Computer
Learning Lab came after the Sinclair project. I
wrote this book with cassette tapes for Tandy, and
it was used to introduce the first Radio Shack
Color Computer. I tried to add a Learning Lab
project to the first software ever offered with
the (then) new IBM personal computer, but they
decided to launch the IBM PC with two other
programs I created instead. Too bad. (Typing Tutor
and Time Manager were to other "firsts"
in my programming career)
Other Learning Lab
projects that didn't go too well were for a couple
of computers that never actually made it into full
production. This includes the APF computer and the
TI (Texas Instruments) computer -- both were real
dogs, as I recall.
A couple of years
ago I created the Ainsworth Computer Seminar which
is an extended version of the Learning Lab
concept, but using the then powerful QuickBASIC.
Unfortunately, computers running QBasic are
virtually gone now, and I haven't updated the
Seminar for Windows systems. I plan to do this,
but I'm busy. I also run a software company and
write all the software myself, in case you hadn't
noticed.
So the Sinclar
project should be seen in a larger context. And
that is the basic combination of software and text
in an integrated package. These earlier attempts,
as well as my Seminar are all based on the idea
that when literature is combined with technology,
a new media can emerge. My early attempts to
combine programs on tape with books were all based
on trying to develop this new form of
communication. This is, I feel, as different as
plays, poetry, novels, film, television, and other
media. In other words, we are at the threshold of
a new art form that allows writers to interact in
new and different and very powerful ways. I will
always be thankful that Clive Sinclair (and a few
other people) saw the wisdom in this idea and gave
me the opportunity to experiment in a real-world
circumstance.
The next step.
Well, I'm working on expanding this concept to
expand what I consider to be an important literary
form (computers as books, not just books
transferred to computer screens). This will be in
the form of the Ainsworth Computer Seminar and
will continue to be free on my website. But it
will be several months before I can devote any
real time to the project.
Maybe this didn't
tell you much about the Sinclair Learning Lab
after all, but that book was an important move in
a new direction, and a very worthwhile experiment
in the evolving marriage of technology and
literature.
And if you ever do
come across the Scientific American add for the
book and computer combination, I would appreciate
a high res scan for my collection.
Regards...
...Dick Ainsworth
Chris
writes: Excellent
stuff Dick - I hope you sell loads of your typing
instruction software! |
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"The
ZX80 lives on .. Great ...
I have fond
memories of this revolutionary piece of kit. My
boys were 8 and 10 at the time and Space Invaders
had taken the world by storm. It was autumn when
they gave me an ultimatum, program Space Invaders
on the ZX80 by Xmas !!!!
Well, as you
probably know, this poses a slight problem as the
ZX80 did not have a memory mapped display.
Basically the screen was a printer. Also, Basic
was definitely out because of speed and memory
space. I believe we had a 3k RAM pack at that
time. Then I saw an advert for ZX80 BREAKOUT I
ordered the listing and on it's arrival
methodically typed in the machine code. To my
amazement there was a bat & ball wandering
across the screen !!!! I set about disassembling
the code to see how it was done. The programmer
had written a memory mapped routine. But,
synchronisation was a huge problem as the screen
driver had to be called at exactly the same
millisecond, otherwise the screen would break up.
This meant that every path through the space
invader code had to take the same CPU time. Not
too bad when there is only a bat & ball, but
an army of invaders ? It took about 3 months as
the ZX80 did not have an assembler, so it was
machine code all the way. Mid December it was
ready. Ok the space invaders were "W"'s,
the rocket launches was a "T" and the
shells a "." but it really captured the
frenzy of the original, with the invaders marching
down the screen faster & faster. My boys were
delighted and played the game for months. I sold
the listing for £5 from a small add in one of the
ZX80 mags. During a ZX80 enthusiasts meeting in
London, I popped my tape into one of the demo
machines and fired up my game.
Most of the ZX80
had accounts programs or noughts & crosses
running on them. Within 5 minutes I had the entire
assembly crowded around the lone ZX80 wanting to
play. Unfortunately this is where things went pear
shape. A smart gentleman of foreign origin dragged
me to one side and wanted to market my game. He
said we would be famous and make a fortune. Being
young and gullible, I signed on the dotted line,
idiot I hear you say ? Of course I did all the
hard work and he run off with the money ..........
When the ZX81
appeared I managed to cram the code into the
miniscule 1K memory. I started selling my listing
again, as well as cassettes.....
Then the Spectrum
.....................................................
Chris
writes: The
'smart gentleman' mentioned above, ran Syntax
software, who sold John's games without paying any
royalties - anyone know him!?
| RANDLE
HURLEY, Penzance April 03 |
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His
book!
Dear Chris,
Thanks for the email, Yes
I did receive it but hadn't got round to replying yet.
I became interested in
computing in the seventies when I came across a machine
at my work place in the city and another in the school
of management in Regent St Poly. The one at work was
really big, 16k, and occupied one floor of our building.
All I saw of the Poly machine was a teletype terminal
which made a lot of noise. The machine at work produced
huge piles of paper which demanded attention but I never
got nearer to the machine than the paper. Access was
through an airlock and security passes were needed.
Next thing, I saw an ad
for a home computer which was one sixteenth as big as
the works machine, sat on your desk, plugged into your
TV and all at a cost of £100. Having some experience of
building electronic equipment I opted for the DIY kit at
a saving of £20 which was a significant amount to a
recently qualified teacher on scale one. I was familiar
with a number of Sinclair products, some of which
performed remarkably well. I knew about Clive Sinclair's
obsession with miniaturisation but I was still very
surprised when my kit arrived in a box about the size of
a ream of paper.
The instructions were
good and all the parts were there. It went together
easily and worked first time. The screen was a bit of a
disappointment being mostly blank and the flash every
time a key was pressed was a little disconcerting. The
manual was an introduction to BASIC and some of it was
quite easy to master. Some aspects of the language were,
however, baffling. Why would you ever want to pick the
middle bit out of a string of characters for instance
and the prospect of POKEing anything into the machine,
even something as insignificant as a number between 0
and 255 was alarming. My first programming milestone was
a routine to produce answers with decimal places.
Mastery of some of the
language was satisfying for a while but I wanted to do
real things with my computer and nobody seemed to be
able to tell me how. Soon I got to hear of Tim Hartnell
(I think that's right) who worked for an Australian
newspaper in Earls Court. He was running a fan club for
the ZX80 and published a magazine. My first issue was a
further disappointment because it seemed that no one
else had got further than I had. I contacted Tim and we
met up and talked through a number of ideas which might
be interesting to the mag's readers and I offered to
work out solutions to these problems in the hope that
other readers would offer other problems and solutions
so that we could all progress to something worth doing
with our machines. It was through Tim that I met Mike
Johnson, a huge fan of the ZX80 (in every sense of the
word). Mike ran a users' group in North London and
eventually went on to run an annual exhibition for
Sinclair computers. Things were just starting to move
and then the bombshell of the ZX81 was dropped. I bought
one as soon as I could, a kit again, and it worked first
time. The big thing was SLOW mode which allowed the Z80
processor to spend 75% of its time driving the screen
and 25% thinking. The result was a steady display which
didn't collapse on every key stroke.
The ZX81 allowed me to
take off and do some computing which was useful as well
as interesting. I have always thought of the ZX80 as an
early DEEP THOUGHT which was to allow the development of
the "computer which is to come after me, the
operating parameters of which I am unworthy to ....
etc.".
Tim Hartnell had sent
some of my contributions to the magazine off to
Macmillan the publisher when they contacted him to see
if he had anything which might be publishable in this
new field of home computing. Out of the blue came a
letter asking me to write a book based on my ideas. The
book came out a week after Mike Johnson's first
exhibition so all I had on my stall was an ad and a copy
of the book's cover to show. Everyone around was selling
ten line programs for extortionate prices and I didn't
have a thing to offer.
A steady screen allowed
me to produce a primitive word processor, which was
impossible on a ZX80. This eventually developed into
SPECTEXT for the Spectrum which sold well. SPECTEXT came
with a filing system and mail merge showing that these
little machines were more than toys. The whole thing was
let down, I believe, by the Sinclair preoccupation with
miniaturisation and rock bottom prices. ZX80s fried and
needed ice packs on their humps. ZX81s crashed
continuously because of the instability of their 16k
memories on their expansion ports. Spectrums just died
of Z80 overload giving the random multicoloured display.
The printers seemed designed to expire. My most
successful add-on was my own real keyboard made from a
dead commercial computer and the micro drive which
survived several Spectrums. Everything could have been
very much more stable and satisfactory if components had
not been pushed to the very limits of their
capabilities. The Sinclair machines would not have been
derided by users of other computers as "just
toys" if they didn't suffer from endless crashes
and niggles. On the other hand a computer for &100
(or &80 for cheapskates) made home computing for the
masses a reality at a time when the &1000 tag for
machines was a lot of money. The Newbury Newbrain, the
Oric, The BBC and the Electron would probably never have
been developed without Uncle Clive's act to follow and
home computers would probably be ten times their present
price.
Hope that is useful. With
regard to hardware, all I have left is the first ZX80, a
ZX81 and a Spectrum which I keep for sentimental
reasons. I don't know which of them still work!
Best wishes
Randle Hurley
(2nd
email - Additional information)
Dear Chris,
I bought the original
white ram pack for the ZX80 but this offered a maximum
of either 3 or 4k. There was a simple modification which
allowed the onboard 1k chip to be used as well. All you
had to do was cut one track on the ZX80's circuit board.
I cannot remember a white
16k RAM pack. All mine were black and I got through a
lot of them because my machines were worked very hard. I
seem to remember that there was a modification which
allowed the 16k RAM pack to be used with the ZX80 but
this is only a hazy recollection.
I had a sample of each
Sinclair computer from the ZX80 to the QL. I had very
little support from the Sinclair organisation. My editor
asked and asked for pre-release machines so that we, the
authors and programmers, could get material out to be
ready as the machines were launched. I had to wait while
the launch dates were put back and back again and then
learn the machine and gauge the possibilities it offered
before developing and programming projects. The QL was
with me for a few days only as mine arrived more quickly
than I was expecting and another author was waiting for
a machine with projects ready to work on. My interest at
the time was in producing basic office software; word
processors, database managers and spreadsheets and these
were available for the QL in a suite called
"Quill" if I remember correctly. The only
machine which I never managed to get hold of was the one
which worked in Hex and was called the 'something'14.
My first book was called
"The ZX81, Programming for Real Applications".
It was printed on very heavy paper and the cover was
like an ad for a funeral parlour, being in light blue,
dark blue and black. I was never keen on games (except
for a mild interest in Manic Miner, Hungry Horace and
Space Invaders for the ZX80). I didn't want the machines
to do things just for the sake of it. Real applications
was all I was interested in mainly.
The second book was more
of the same kind of project and was ready for the
publishers just as the Spectrum was launched so It had
to be rewritten and each project was prepared for both
computers. The third was based around Spectext, a word
processor with data file manager and a mail merge
add-on. Everything was written in BASIC and then machine
code routines were added to replace the bits which held
everything up. Result, a program suite which could be
followed by most readers and simple MC routines which
could be called as sub-routines.
I wrote a book for young
programmers which was fun. I did the programming and my
wife wrote the text. All of these books were published
in several languages and apparently sold well in South
America as well as in Europe and the USA where the names
of the machines were different I seem to recall.
Something to do with the Timex link.
All these books sold well
and some very well. My most impressive achievement,
however, didn't sell at all! This was a shame as it was
a joint effort between me and two English teachers from
Kent and we worked on the programs, 24 hours a day for
weeks to meet a deadline. We took it in turns to crash
out on my sofa while the other two kept on working.
The teachers came up with
an A level essay generator for Shakespeare students.
They presented it to me as a series of six programs which worked extremely well. One typed in the Acts of
the play one was interested in, the characters and
themes to be explored and the machine produced ideas for
investigation, quotes to explore, cross referenced bits
to consider and other ideas which might be useful as
starting points for the essays. Each program covered
one of the six most studied plays in A level. The only
problem was that each enquiry took about ten minutes to
answer and my task was to reduce this to one second.
I used my Spectext
approach of replacing only those Basic routines which
acted as bottle necks and we produced fully tested programs
for the six plays by the deadline and sold so
few that I don't remember getting any royalty at all for
all that effort.
My best achievement, I
feel, was a chapter about 1k programming for the ZX81
for science teaching. My Doppler effect program had a
display which moved in several directions simultaneously
and showed the changes of pitch in moving graphics.
This, on a rock solid ZX81 with no danger of crashing
from RAM pack wobble and which loaded from tape in
seconds!
Randle Hurley
Chris
writes: Thanks for your great contribution!
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Eric
Deeson, Birmingham, April 03 (Ran EZUG section
of Interface magazine) |
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I'm in education
and first used a computer in the early 1970s, at a
conference about their educational potential. Even
so, like many teachers do, I bullsh*tted my way
into the field a lot earlier - writing my first
book in the field in 1969 (on computerised
typesetting actually, a technology later to lead
to word processing and personal publishing),
contributing to the development of educational
computing in various ways, and specifying
computers within various projects on which I
worked as a consultant. "Uncle" Clive's
adverts for the ZX80 really excited me, as by then
I'd done a lot of work in educational computing,
including internationally, and micros like the
Apples had started to appear and have an impact in
the field.
But the ZX80, at a
tenth of the price, enabled me to work at home on
what I was always talking about in conferences and
the media. Wonderful! OK: it was a pretty
difficult machine to operate (in particular
getting it to talk with an audio cassette recorder
- also pretty new technology then - as backing
store). But it was programmable and able to do
things of educational value, including sensing and
control - so it was the first step on a path
through the ZX81, Spectrum and BBC Micro that had
Britain leading the world in the effective use of
computers for learning.
I still do a lot of
work in that field - educational IT - and while
British practice is now in many ways less
effective than it was by the end of the 1980s, I
find in my extensive reading and travels that
Britain still leads the world.
Eric Deeson.
Chris
writes: Thanks for contributing!
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| Chris
Davies, April 03 (www.trash80.org.uk) |
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Hi Chris,
my ZX-80 memories
are below. I did start up the old ..er... wafer
(seems strange to call the ZX-80 a
"box"!) and it works fine though
couldn't manage to get any decent screenshots. my
digital camera stubbornly won't let me take photos
of TV with a fast enough shutter speed! still
trying though.
The ZX-80 was the
first computer we had, though not the first piece
of computer technology, that was a Pong console
(which we also still have). I was still at primary
school when my dad bought the ZX-80, proudly I was
the first kid in class to have a computer! We got
the computer set up and began experimenting with
the BASIC programs in the manual. Later on I
attempted the "cheese nibbler" program
with it's near endless list of print statements.
Finally we had it written (and saved to tape!) and
were able to play the cheese nibbler game, which
was actually quite fun. I also remember the dice
game and a game a bit like battleships.
Programs were saved
and loaded off cassette tape, we had to listen to
the tape for the start of the data ourselves, of
course later computers were able to find the data
on the tape for themselves. The ZX-80 was a bit
limited though, we didn't pursue any expansion or
improvements for the computer and a couple of
years later we got a VIC-20 with the almost
unimaginable luxury of 3.5K RAM! I think the main
drawback of the computer was the keyboard, or lack
of one. Especially when typing in a long program!
The ZX-80 started
me off in computing, that's for sure. My education
and career path in IT has definately been helped
by my early start with the ZX-80. Happily I still
have the computer, and it still works fine.
chris
Chris
writes: Thanks Chris - nice web site!
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| Jim
Chase, May 2003 |
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Hi Chris,
The website looks
great! I remember getting the invaders listing and
schematic from a chap who visited our library
computer club in Lowestoft, I must have been 13 at
the time. I then decided to convert a listing for
a zx81 which was called super-bomber. It took
ages, as I had to manually hand assemble the code,
and make sure every loop in the program took
exactly the same number of machine cycles. The
special routine that drew the display had be
called at exact time intervals. I think my final
listing was something like 3 metres long. It
worked great, and no flickering. Essentially a
small plane would go left to right, and you could
drop bombs on the cityscape below, and had to land
the plane after all the 'buildings' had been
destroyed. I have no idea where the listing is
now. These days I still write embedded software,
so must have been a great learning tool for me.
-Jim
Chris
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| Les
Cottrell (US), May 2003 |
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I think it was 1981
when I bought a MicroAce, a ZX80 clone for my
youngest son.. We both used it to learn to
program. I was 45 at the time. I had just hired on
into the Shuttle program and my boss expected me
to learn programming. I found a number of other
engineers with the MicroAce.. Word got around and
we formed a club of about 120 users. I built one
for myself from spare parts.
In 1982 I built a
ZX81 kit for my son and a ZX81 ROM for my
MicroAce. For a while I had both ROMs switchable
on mine. Then they came out with a flicker-free
mod and I had a simulated ZX81.
My son used the
ZX81 in his Eagle Scout project by writing a
program each day for vacation bible school at our
church. He had about a dozen ZX81 with a quiz
about the days lesson and a game when you answered
all the questions correctly.
He used all the
ZX81 he had purchased to start a computer Explorer
post. When he was ready for college we added a
full sized keyboard with 72 keys, hunter board
with a MemoText word processor and printer driver
burned into EPROM that drove a portable
typewriter. This was the time when professors wouldn't
accept papers printed with a dot matrix printer,
so he was one of the few students that could do
his papers on his computer.
About a year after
the Timex 2068 came out I moved up. I loved the
2068 and eventually added a LarKen disk system
with two 5 1/4 drives, two 3 ½ drives and a
quarter meg ram disk. I added a full size keyboard
and other options. I build a home-made LarKen and
acquired another one, plus four more 2068's which
I used in a fourth to sixth grade Sunday School
class.
I enjoyed the
adventure games and was able to play Spectrum
games with the Spectrum emulator option that
LarKen had. My all time favourite is Kings Keep .
Back in the 80's I
heard that someone had used a ZX81 to run a night
time radio program at his radio
Les
Chris
writes: I'm sure there are lots more
Microace fans out there - drop me a line! Thanks
Les for your important input. |
| Andrew
Barton (Andrews's old ZX80 purchased by me
September 03) |
| Hi
I was a science
graduate and had just started my first job at a
computer consultancy (Inteco) specialising in
forecasting the market for small and medium
computers in Europe. I saw the ad in Practical
Electronics and persuaded my Mum and Dad to buy me
a kit for my birthday - I felt that constructing
and learning to program the ZX80 would be valuable
experience for me. It was easy to construct for
anyone who was experienced with Electronics, and
worked first time. I then spent about the next
week programming in ridiculous games and playing
them non-stop with my flat mates. Then it went
back in it's box and didn't re-emerge from the
loft until about 2 weeks ago.
Hope this helps
Andrew Barton
Chris
writes: Thanks Andrew! It's in nice
condition. |
| Jim
Butler, UK May 2003 |
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Hi Chris
had a look at the
site - very nice loads quickly (broadband)
One story I just
thought of (the short version)
I ordered a ZX
printer, after ages it still hadn't arrived, no
luck with the order help line. Clive Sinclair was
in mensa so I got hold of a membership list which
had his home phone number on it. I rang and his
wife answered.......................and he was out
!!!! BUT 2 printers arrived the next week and I
only ordered one.
I bought the ZX80
in 1980 and spent may happy and frustrating hours
with it, I'll write something and mail it to you
regards
Jim
Chris
writes: I look forward to your full story
Jim!
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