FINDHORN & KINLOSS COMMUNITY COUNCIL .

Minutes of the meeting of the Community Council held in Kinloss Primary School on Thursday 29th November 2007

Present:

R Walker (Chairman), G. Verner, S. MacGregor, J. Willoner, R. Shand, M. Thompson, H. Morton, L. Morgan, T. Negus (Sec).

In Attendance:

Eva Ward (Findhorn Foundation), Tanya McLaren (Forres Gazette).

Also in Attendance: 3 Members of the public.

ITEM 1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
 
Apologies were received from Cllr Hamilton, J. Innes(RAFLO), A. Skene.
 
Public Session
 
ITEM 2. UPDATE ON RECYCLING
 

2.1 The Secretary reported that the speaker Deborah Hockney,  was ill and unable to be present. This presentation will be made at a future meeting.
 
ITEM 3. ANY OTHER COMPETENT PUBLIC BUSINESS
 

3.1 Mr B. Parsons presented concerns about low flying over Kinloss School. He said that he had recently been helping with cycle proficiency training at the School when two Tornado F3 aircraft had flown very low over the school in a North –South direction. This episode had been repeated a few days later this time involving Typhoon aircraft. He was concerned at these apparent breaches of normal circuit procedure both from a point of view of noise disturbance and of public safety and had written to the relevant authorities at RAF Kinloss. The meeting noted Mr Parsons’ concerns and the Chairman agreed to bring these reported incidents to the attention of the RAFLO in the first instance. Action R. Walker, J. Innes
 
Council Session
 

ITEM 4. MINUTES OF LAST MEETING
 

4.1 The minutes of the meeting held on 25th October were ratified. Proposed L. Morgan, seconded M. Thompson.
 
ITEM 5. MATTERS ARISING
 

5.1 Roller Skiers. Item carried forward in absence of representation from Grampian Police.
                                                                                                         
5.2  Road Surface in Links View. The Secretary reported that he had been informed by Moray Council that the section of the road that was owned by the housing department had been inspected and an estimate for the cost of resurfacing had been sought.
 
5.3 Broken Bollards on Kinloss – Findhorn Road. This issue has not yet been progressed. M. Thompson agreed to take the matter up with Moray Council. Following discussion it was agreed that the Community Council would seek replacement of the missing bollards in the interests of safety for pedestrians using the path between Kinloss and the Bay View caravan site.                                            Action M. Thompson
 
5.4 Disposal of South Side RAF married quarters. The Chairman reported that he had received a letter from Wing Commander McCracken confirming that the 302 houses comprising the Southside estate are surplus to requirements and will be disposed of. Discussions with Moray Council Housing and Planning departments have commenced. The Chairman had spoken with Jill Stewart, head of the Housing Department who had indicated that at present the Council does not intend to take these houses on to their books. L. Morgan stressed that it was important that the Community Council should be fully consulted during the disposal process rather than merely kept informed. Current protocols relating to the disposal of MOD housing are not clear and the secretary agreed to look into this. Action T Negus
 
5.5 Vandalism etc In Findhorn. The Secretary reported that following the last meeting he had e-mailed Sgt Robertson (Sgt Macdonald’s replacement as Community Council Liaison Officer) reporting concerns about recent break-ins and vandalism incidents in Findhorn and requesting a review of the frequency of police patrols in Findhorn. He had received neither reply nor acknowledgement. The meeting expressed concerns that the good working relationship built up between the Community Council and Sgt MacDonald had not been maintained following his detachment to Aberdeen despite the nomination of a successor. The Chairman agreed to speak with Inspector Dora to try to restore more effective communication between the Community Council and Grampian Police.      Action R.Walker
  
5.6  Fly-Tipping near former Stable Inn Kinloss. The Secretary said that he had reported the matter to Moray Council who had involved SEPA. SEPA have identified the person responsible and are taking enforcement action to have the rubble removed and the site restored.
 
ITEM 6. CHAIRMAN’S REPORT
 

6.1 Represented the Community Council at Remembrance Day ceremony at Kinloss Abbey.
 
6.2 Correspondence. Letter from RAF Kinloss about Southside AMQs. Questionnaire on Post Office closures.(see secretary’s report). Letter from Mr Shoult about roller skiers.
 
ITEM 7. SECRETARY’S REPORT
 

7.1 Meetings Attended. 5 Nov With R Shand & Mr Athol Newlands representing Novar Estates. 16 Nov ENTRUST workshop at Aberdeen Airport on recent changes to Landfill Tax grant regulations. 21 Nov Moray Local Plan hearings.
 
7.2 Correspondence not covered elsewhere. Subscription renewal for Scottish Rights of Way Society (cheque sent). letter from Moray Council confirming M. Thompson’s appointment. Quote from Leith’s to patch Dunes Road. Quote accepted and work is almost complete. Invoice received. Letter from Postwatch Scotland seeking participants in a postal delivery survey leading up to Christmas.(Passed to H. Morton). Letter from Grampian Fire & Rescue inviting on-line consultation on their 08/09 draft Action Plan. Consultation questionnaire from Moray Council regarding local post-office closures. (copies distributed to all Community Councillors for completion and return to Secretary by Christmas).
 
7.3 e-Correspondence. Community Council Handbook now available. Copy ordered for each CC member. Information about 2 Scottish parliamentary questions concerning SNP aspirations for reforming Community councils.
 
7.4 Flyers and Newsletters. SEPA View. SCOTWAYS annual report. Autumn newsletter from Postwatch Scotland. Flyer from MP&MSP.
 
 
ITEM 8. TREASURER,S REPORT
 

8.1 The Treasurer presented the Annual Accounts which had been independently checked by Mrs Sue Horn. He highlighted the main points and answered questions. The Accounts were accepted. The constitution requires that a copy of the accounts be forwarded to Moray Council. R.Shand will get Mrs Horn to annotate appropriately and sign a copy and he will then pass it to the Secretary for onward transmission to Moray Council. Recent payments this month included Leiths invoice for road repairs @ £2,220.75 paid from No 2 account and Secretarial expenses of £29.58 and Scotways subscription of £16 paid from No 1 account. R.Shand then handed over his post of Treasurer to J. Willoner. The Chairman thanked R.Shand for the excellent job he has done as Treasurer.Action R Shand, T Negus
 
ITEM 9. MORAY COUNCILLOR’S REPORT
 

No report in absence of Moray Councillor.
 
ITEM 10. RAFLO REPORT
 

No report in absence of RAFLO.
 

ITEM 11. FINDHORN FOUNDATION REPORT.
 

11.1 Eva Ward reported on plans to improve signage to the foundation including the use of Brown Tourism signs. She extended a warm welcome to the community Council to attend the Winter Festival in the Universal Hall on 14th December. 
 
ITEM 12. PLANNING

 
12. 1 The Secretary and R. Shand had had a helpful meeting with Mr Newlands of Bowlts, agents for Novar Estates regarding the Estate’s approach towards development in the Village.
 
12.2. The Secretary reported on the morning session on 21 Nov of the local Planning Enquiry which he had attended with L. Morgan at which possible developments at East Grange and Newton of Struthers were discussed. In the afternoon Session which the Secretary attended with H.Morton, issues under discussion were R1, R2 and ‘LONG’ designations   on Dunelands’ owned land at the Northern end of the foundation and the ENV8  designation of an area to the East of Findhorn Village.
 
12.3 Correspondence. Letter informing us that outline permission for a house next to ‘The Whins’ had been granted. Letter acknowledging our comments about the proposed development opposite Manse Road and informing us that it will be determined by the Environmental Services Committee rather than by delegated powers.
 
12.4  e-Correspondence. Response from Planning department  to query about planters outside Bakehouse Café. Since the height of the basic support structure has been reduced to less than 1 metre, planning permission is no longer required under Class 7 of the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted development) (Scotland) order 1992.
 
12.5  Applications Notified Since last Meeting
 
KINLOSS
 
22 Nov. 1 ½ storey house in garden ground at 13 Whiteinch. L.Morgan has ascertained that this is an application for a second house at the site. However, it is a large area and there appears to be ample space for another house.              No Objections.
 
FINDHORN FOUNDATION
 
No applications
 
FINDHORN VILLAGE
 
25 Oct. Further installation of 16 static caravans at Findhorn Sands Caravan Park. H. Morton has seen the plans at the Council Access point in Elgin. The caravans are to be located in a hollow at the north- eastern corner of the Caravan site and are unlikely to be visually intrusive. Scottish Water have signified that they do not object to the application.    No Objections.
 
2 Nov. Application for Full and Conservation Area permissions to part demolish Bunty and build a house. This is a revision of an earlier application to include a reference to demolition. The Community Council has already objected to the previous application and our objection letter will be transferred to the new file.
 
ITEM 13 ANY OTHER COMPETENT BUSINESS
 

13.1 The Chairman reported that G. Sutherland had tendered her resignation from the Community Council for personal reasons.  The Chairman said that the Council was very sorry to lose her and he had written to Mrs Sutherland thanking her for her contribution. The Chairman said that he and his fellow Kinloss Councillors had agreed to the co-option of Mrs Anne Skene who had applied for a recent vacancy but had been unsuccessful at the subsequent ballot. Mrs Skene has indicated her continuing willingness to join the Community Council. The meeting unanimously supported the co-option of Mrs Skene and the Secretary was instructed to seek ratification of her appointment by Moray Council.Action T Negus
 

13.2  L. Morgan reported on the recent AGM of the Association of Scottish Community Councils in Edinburgh which he had recently attended.
 
13.3  L. Morgan reported on the November meeting of the Joint Community Councils of Moray. At the meeting the subject of the new ward boundaries had been discussed. Following consultation with F&KCC members he was of the opinion that our Community Council had derived no benefit from the changes. Moray Councillor attendance at our meetings had both diminished and been diluted. Of the six Community Council meetings held since the changes only three had been attended by a Moray Councillor and these attendances had not all been by the same Councillor. This appeared to be a lower rate of attendance than previously and L.Morgan had concerns about continuity in dealing with issues. However, this was by no means the view of the majority of the JCCM. Most had managed to identify a specific Moray Councillor who regularly attended their meetings. The Chairman agreed to take up this issue with Moray Councillors Hamilton and Young both of whom lived within the Community Council’s area. Action R Walker
 

13.4  Crown Estates Review Update. L. Morgan informed the meeting that a Scottish Parliament Rural and Environmental Affairs Committee has been collecting evidence from interested parties on whether to adopt the report of the Crown Estate working Group. This group favoured the position that the Scottish Crown Estate assets and any revenues therefrom should come under Scottish Government control. This position is strongly supported by the Scottish National Party. A decision was expected on 7th November but any change in the existing arrangements would have to be sanctioned by Westminster since it is a ‘reserved’ matter.
 
13.5 L. Morgan said that in response to consultation by Mr Peacock MSP about Flooding issues, he had written to stress the importance of regular clearing of minor watercourses. Whilst this is not a popular or favoured course of action by either landowners or Moray Council he was sure that this relatively simple measure does help prevent flooding events at least in the short term. He had received acknowledgement from Mr Peacock.
 
13.6  M. Thompson congratulated the Chairman on the new Community Council website. He suggested that it could be expanded to promote the area more actively. The Chairman said that he was very open to any suggestions but was conscious of the fact that it is a Community Council site rather than a general site for the local area. He felt that perhaps a better way to expand the site was by way of links to other relevant sites.
 
13.7  M. Thompson said that he was concerned at the amount of rubbish deposited on the minor road between Kinloss and Waterford. He and his wife had recently collected 8 bags of rubbish from the roadside. This detracted from the amenity of the waymarked tourist route and he felt that the provision of appropriate signage might help matters. He agreed to write to Moray Council. Action M Thompson
 
13.8 Speeding at entrance to Kinloss from Findhorn. M. Thompson asked for an update on this issue. He said that he had noted that physical traffic calming measures had been instituted in Auldearn and felt that a similar arrangement would be appropriate for Kinloss. The Chairman said that he had visited Ardesier where there were also traffic calming measures in place and he had spoken with the local Highland Councillor who had supported the case. He had reported that the measures had completely solved speeding traffic problems in that village. The Chairman had also spoken at some length with Mr Holland, Senior Road Traffic Engineer at Moray Council. Mr Holland said that there were two options for traffic control on Findhorn Road Kinloss – firstly a greatly enhanced Police enforcement of the existing speed restriction (which was unlikely to occur) or secondly some form of physical traffic calming measure.

The Chairman said that it would be crucial to consult widely and to obtain widespread support from residents for traffic calming measures since later objections could prejudice effective action. It was agreed that the Kinloss Councillors would consult locally and come up with a preferred course of action. This would then be submitted to the full Community Council for endorsement. The Secretary agreed to identify and copy relevant background correspondence. Action All Kinloss Councillors, T Negus.
 

13.9 It was confirmed that R Shand in his capacity as Vice-Chairman would remain a signatory on the Community Council Accounts.
 
13.10 The Secretary reported that the vandalised Dog Fouling Bin near the west Beach Car Park had been replaced by Moray Council and he had written to Environmental Direct services to thank them for their prompt action.
 
ITEM 14. DATE OF NEXT MEETING
 

Thursday 31
st January 2008 at 7.30pm in the James Milne Institute Findhorn.
 
(Note Volunteer will be required to act as secretary for February meeting).

 

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